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Ask the Beauty Brains: NYR Organic

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    • CommentAuthorChristaMc
    • CommentTimeOct 12th 2009 edited
     
    Hi! I'm new to this site, but was impressed by the thorough analysis done on other products.

    My daughter is selling NYR Organic bodycare products and I was wondering if any here have tried it, and would be interested in hearing an analysis from the brains of the group!
    I'm not a hardcore organic person, but was impressed at how quickly a small 3rd degree burn healed when I used their lavender oil on it, and then I went to a "practice party" that my daughter did, I was able to check out a few more products. As a good mom would, I am scheduled to host a party, but I am more interested in the analysis of the product before I make any kind of investment in it.

    Christa
    • CommentAuthorChristaMc
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2009
     
    Me again....had the party (a success), but still curious if anyone has experience with these products and would appreciate an analysis by some of the brains.........should I be posting this elsewhere to get an answer?
    Christa
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      CommentAuthorLeft Brain
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009
     

    Hello Christa,

    Sorry about the delay in answering.  We are working hard on meeting our deadline for our new Beauty Brains book.

    So, your question is basically....Should you invest in the product?

    First, the products

    I've never used the products but I did review the ingredient lists of a few listed on the website.  The bottom line is that there is nothing special about these products that would make them superior to Burt's Bees, JASON, or any of the other host of "natural / organic" products that are touted now.

    Also, there is nothing special about any natural/organic product.  There is no evidence that they are safer or better for you.

    Second, the system

    I don't know anything about this company.  But it seems they use a system of distribution called Network Marketing or Multi-Level Marketing.  In this system, they get "consultants" to buy products, sell them to their friends, and then try to get the "consultants" to convert their friends into consultants of which they get a kickback.

    The whole system is basically a pyramid scheme in which no one (except the people who started the company) really makes any significant money. 

    Before you invest any money in this company or any other, be sure to read this information about Multi-level Marketing.  http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4176#

    Hope that helps!

    • CommentAuthordesigner856
    • CommentTimeNov 10th 2009 edited
     
    Hi Christa,
    The Beauty Brains is right.... NYR's products are not totally natural, yet alone organic. Their products include synthetic chemicals or chemically processed naturally derived ingredients like Sodium lauroyl sarcosinate, Cocamidopropyl betaine, which I noticed in the face wash and Coco-glucoside, Ammonium lauryl sulfate and hydroxypropyltrimonium chloride in the Rose Shampoo. As for some of the products that claim to be 95% organic (like the baby lotion), it is probable that they are counting water content, infused with weak "tea bags" of organic herbs which is kind of "cheating the system" in order to get by using organic as a marketing term.

    Its so frustrating and confusing to sort through marketing claims used in natural and organic body care products. I understand as I have been there many times myself. Here is a very helpful and informative UTube video on Certified Organic Products created by the founder of Miessence product line with information on how to spot "real organic" vs. "fake organic" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP68RWCQECM (you can copy and paste this link into your browser)

    Since “Natural” and "organic" claims abound with no regulations on those terms, companies are free to use them as they wish. Really the only way to validate these claims is to bring products for personal care up to the standards of organic food.

    If you or your daughter are interested in natural and organic products, then be sure to look for products certified to organic food standards. If the product is certified organic by the USDA, ACO (Australia Certified Organic), JAS (Japans Agricultural Standards) or other international government bodies to food grade standards then there is no ingredient allowed that would not be allowed in certified organic food. Literally safe enough to eat! Any certified organic product contains (excluding water and salt) at least 95% organically produced agricultural ingredients. The remaining ingredients (up to 5%) can be non-agricultural substances or non-organically produced agricultural ingredients, with strict processing criteria (eg. absolutely no GMOs or synthetics chemicals).

    If your daughter enjoys sharing products with family and friends and working in an MLM structure then have her visit my site and contact me about Miessence. They are an amazing company with products that are CERTIFIED TO ORGANIC FOOD STANDARDS. Truly natural, truly organic and exceptionally effective. In addition, it is also worth mentioning that Miessence certified organic products are 100% bioactive, meaning there is no water added to the formulations as "filler". You are getting a highly concentrated, highly potent product. Miessence offers a patented cold formulation to protect the integrity of the ingredients with no heating in the processing. So the precious organic nutrients and oils are preserved and shipped off fresh. Products should be used within 6 months since no chemical preservatives are used to make the shelf life years and years.

    As for MLMs companies, I completely agree with the post above from Jasmine. If you do your homework on the company, on the product quality and the support offered, there really is no way to lose. Of course there is no such thing as "easy money" - time and effort are the only way to grow a business.

    For the products visit:
    http://www.organicglow.com

    For more info on the business opportunity visit:
    http://www.organicglow.biz

    Best to you!
    Alison
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    Had another point to add about MLM companies. I think Beauty Brains was being a bit unfair. If you want to start your own business, ANY business, you must be in it for the long haul. ANY new business won't be very profitable for at least 5 years. You struggle and work hard in the beginning until things take off and then you can relax a bit and reap the rewards. Business owners work hard for delayed gratification and a residual, passive income down the road. If you become part of an MLM, you essentially own your own business with very little investment, no overhead, no retail space, etc. A respectable MLM offers any rep the opportunity to advance up the top ranks with consistent hard work and effort, regardless of if you "start at the bottom". Its a really terrific way to start a business, you just have to realize that your income may take years to build and you will have to continue working hard while it does.

    Here's a great quote that applies to MLM - "Entrepreneurship is living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't."
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      CommentAuthorLeft Brain
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2009
     

    @designer856 - It is not true that ANY new business won't be profitable for 5 years.  Web-based business cost next to nothing to start and are profitable right away. 

    My conclusions about MLM are not merely based on my opinion.  They are based on facts.  According to this analysis of people in MLM businesses, the overwhelming majority of people do not make money.

    http://www.mlm-thetruth.com/ShockingMLMstats.htm

    In all cases, over 99% of people lost money.

    Do you have any studies or data that you base your conclusions on?

     

    • CommentAuthorChristaMc
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2009
     
    Thank you both for your input.....I am aware that there is so much "organic" and "natural" out there that it practically doesn't mean anything any more.

    Designer856....I appreciate your knowledgeable insight. I was told NYR Organic was recently purchased, and the new owner is working to reformulate products to higher standards. They actually intended to wait until products were reformulated and USDA certified organic before joining the market, but opportunities came up that they decided to jump in early. Hopefully it won't hurt them in the long run.
    For sure I will check out the links you provided.

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